o.o *sticks her big toe in the water*...

[Brazerface]

>_> *glances around and splishes a little with her feet and decides she likes it* <_<;; Lo guys. ^^

I just went ahead and made a general account thinger since it looks like there is brainstorming going on mostly for now and stuff so o.o

It feels kinda weird being here XD; I gotta get mah bearings.

Okay anyway, so o.o I was reading some of the brainstorming going on and wanted to just throw some things in for you guys--it doesn't have to be done, but I just wasn't sure if you might want to at least look at it or whatnot.

I dunno where you guys are starting from, though it wouldn't really matter since I think my char would need to be totally oblivious to what's going on anyway o.o, and I don't know if Auria told you guys what we HAD planned for the sequel before all that stuff happened. If she has and you didn't like it, that's totally cool, but if she hadn't, then I can tell you guys what it was AND if you like it there's no need to worry about stealing something from her because she and I had agreed that most of it was mine, and that she was going to do something completely different for you guys.

So we were going to write just a fanfic type thing for our characters using that stuff, because it was the plot that I centered the new bios over. And it would be a perfect method of getting everyone working together to tell the story instead of having one ST. Again though, I don't know if you guys already knew about it or not, so I won't go into the details yet just in case you have and would rather not work with it. ^.^ That way it'll save some time XD

I also wanted to see how everyone felt about Trav and Dave coming back. JUST them, not any of the others I don't think, unless you wanted them too, and we could make them mass NPCs we all could play or summat. Or hell, if I just need to make new charries altogether o.o which one would be more prefered. ^^;

[stardust]

HEY!!! *glomps* LOL Brazeface XD WELCOME TO AWAKENIIIING!!! *throws confetti and unleashes the eskimos to all give you a hug* HAHAHA XD

I'm interested to know what it is YOU'RE planning for the sequel!! O.O And I so don't mind having Trav and David!!! We want them back as much as we want Gone XD I miss them!

[Brazerface]

Awwww Ani They missed you guys too! And I missed the girls <3 *glomps*

Well, what Aur and I had had going was going to be something super different from the first Trin.

What it was going to be was that basically, during the battle with Adel in the first Trin, there was going to be some kind of reaction inside the Pandora (where they would have been fighting) that effected everyone's brain waves.

Then shortly after the feast, everyone who had been inside the Pandora during the fight would slowly start slipping in and out of comas until they finally just slip in and stayed. BUT...the characters weren't going to know this. We were going to start each character off in their OWN thread, seperated, with them in a completely perfectionized dream world "alternate reality", where they had EVERYTHING they wanted, it was all perfect, etc.

Then, things in the dream worlds would start to go downhill, things would start to get creepy and then--BAM. They'd wake up one at a time, and be in the Garden Infirmary hooked up to IVs and monitors and stuff.

What they'd come to find out was that whatever happened in the Pandora somehow ripped holes in their abilities to distinguish the real world from the dream worlds, like there was something inside them (not physically, but mentally) just feeding off of their consciousness. The doctors would tell them that they've been in comas for about a month (or two, I can't remember), but that it could have seemed longer than that to them depending on the dream state they were in and stuff. And they wouldn't know how much longer they would have because they could all slip back into comas any minute/hour/day, and the more/longer they were in a coma, the worse their chances would be of getting out again.

After having done some research, the doctors and scientists would have found a way to bring them back to the real world for good though--through using Ellone and the GFs embedded in their memories to go into each others' alternate realities as a collective and retrieve what they called an "anchor"--something that meant the world to your character, something connected to their most precious memory they have, getting that achor and bringing it with them out of the comas.

One by one, they'd all willingly go back into their comas, each time going back together into ONE person's dream. Like for example, the first one we did was going to be Blaze's I think: what would happen was they'd all slip into their comas, and through connecting Ellone to them and their GFs and stuff, they'd ALL be transported into Blaze's dream state to help her get her anchor. After they got it, they would come out of the comas, rest for a day or two or however long they managed to stay lucid until it was the next person's turn.

The only catch was that upon going back into each dream, they find that it's not perfect anymore, that by being pulled forcefully out of their perfect dream, they end up going back and being greeted by their worst nightmares and fears, their perfect world turned upsidedown. They'd all have to wade through it together and be there emotionally for each person as they one by one start to really look within themselves and physically explore what goes on in their minds and why, and learning to overcome each others flaws as a team.

Then at the end when they got all the anchors, they'd all go in one last time together and confront the actual "monster" behind it all; picture it as a sort of abstract, faceless hungry beast feeding off of a chaotic Dr. Suess-meets-Picasso kind of jumbled world (the last of their consciousness). And they have to give their anchors to their GFs and the GFs battle the "monster" (for lack of a better term XD).

That's the BASIC info, that's why we had you guys fill out that horribly descriptive bio with specific information and stuff, and when it was someone's charrie's turn, they would get the chance to do the STing and guide us all through what their charry is going through. Like, for example, if they were all in Stardie's world, Ani would do the MAJOR STing and guide us through Stardie's nightmare and stuff.

I already knew what I was going to do for Trav's and David's worlds; Trav's...can probably stay the same if you guys want to do this, but Dave's might need tweaking.

Anyway o.o;;;; that was what we HAD planned till we split and stuff. If we did use it, it'd need to be tweaked, but not by much. Just like...it wouldn't HAVE to have happened because of the battle in Pandora or anything. If we did it, we could always find a different way for them to get affected and stuff. I got so sick at the end right before I quit Trin because I wanted to play this with you guys so bad XD;;

BUT like I said ^.^ It's an idea that doesn't HAVE to be used, OR if it is used can be expanded on and taken in a different direction so it works for EVERYONE.

That's the basic gist. Comments? Constructive Criticism? Don't hesitate to add any ideas that this might have given you either, like I said, it's something that could use MAJOR tweaking and input from everyone. ^^

[Ash]

O_O__OO_O_OO_O_O O_O_O_OO_________O_____O_O_O_OO________O

I almost pissed myself with excitment from reading that XD LMAO jk XD but you know waht I mean.

Holy nuts, you and aur really put a lot of effort into that and I personally thought it was amazing. it showed how hard you worked to create this plot, and I like it a lot.

What we basically had, was to leave Trinity behind by destroying the gems, in other words, getting rid of the past of Trinity completely by destroying what they worked so hard to achieve. Lil made up that awesome idea, and I still like it, so I was hoping we can still incorporate that somehow. We really wanted to do it to really 'get rid' of Trinity, or leave it behind.

But d**n That was exciting lol ;D

edit: LMFAO the cussing filter is still on. >_< It made me say "holy nuts ~_~" haha can someone take off those cussing filters My freakin' parental controls won't let me ~________~ *kicks them*

[Brazerface]

AHAHA XD holy nuts. *finds that tremendously humorous for some reason*

Anyway, yeah I am TOTALLY on board if you guys want to do the whole destroying the gems thing and stuff. Like I said, if we DO want to do this sequel idea, we DON'T have to start it right away, we should start wherever you guys want to so we can get closure on the first Trin first. I'm sure you guys need that--at least that's what I got from reading the other brainstorming plans, so really, THAT comes first and foremost. We can totally incorporate the two somehow and have one lead into the other if we put our heads together. Cuz the sequel was meant to be purely about the characters and have nothing to do with any wars or anything, just epic on a personal level because we KNEW how much everyone loved their charries and how much we loved them too. <3 You guys deserved to have some uber fun with it.

I'm so glad you like the idea though! That was the way super condensed version >_> I made GC cry with the details for Trav and Dave so we can sooooo totally go all out with the rest of the charries *____* *would LOVE to see what you guys could come up with*

[Ash]

hahah sounds great!!!

Did you think about how trav and david would come back though? Because since Gone is a seeD he can come in as early as NOW, but your charries are supposed to be dead bad guys sooo think of ways to incorporate them into our team XD

[gone]

<_________< Yeash she made me CRY! It was not fun. >___> *didn't like it all* o.o It wash awesomeness how she explained it to me. It was like reading an awesome book and seeing everything that happened in it, in your head like it was a movie. o.o

o.O The topic summaries for this place are weird. They go backwards from the beginning to the end and not the end to the beginning. o.o

<____< >___> Gone hash summat to say!

Gone: ^________________________^ Love me!!! *runs around glomping everyone* <33333333333333333

[Ash]

topic summaries?

[Brazerface]

Well, Trav and David weren't DEAD, they were just presumed to be dead, or at least that's what Aur had told me I could do since we were going to be doing a separate fic/RP/cooperative story with them and Ap and Gone on LJ. So I mean...I could PROBABLY just brainstorm what they could have been doing between the restaurant thing up until they come in, but to do that I'll need to know what's happened with ya'll's charries since then and then read up on what they end up doing with the gems. o.o Because I don't know how you guys moved from that. >_>

I DO know they probably would have gone and gotten even with Andre for sure (and I know that Andre didn't have the real Ruby so there's no need to brief me on that XD unless she changed it from the Tear), so it'd just be a separate closure type thing. It wouldn't be a problem to work out all that.

GC and I, since we were going to write that story, were gonna have Gone have been transfered to Galbadia or something, and would have ended up running into Trav and Co and having to work with them since Trav is former Galbadia SeeD. And then Gone would have eventually warmed up to them and junk. But we don't have to do that since we only came up with that because we hadn't expected to get to play them with you guys again >__<

I just know that Trav's former SeeD-ness could help him get in with them eventually down the line.

I really need ideas from YOU guys o.o You all, after all, the ones that know more of what's happened since I left, so it's really up to you to help me with what would work since I don't want to just plop them in, you know? So any background info and ideas would help me, I welcome it. ^^

Jack, btw, if you have that convo saved where I told you those stories o.o that'd REALLY be great if you could send em to me so when I rewrite them out for the girls I won't have to wrack my brain trying to tell it right XD;;

[Ash]

really not much has happened after Gone and the rest left the team because we had started doing stuff for STN and KHfoursouls so Trinity didn't move very far.. then when it finally started running, Aur left ~_____~

Since you know the Tear was actually the emerald, that's about all that's happened. After the ezboard hack, we lost almost everything about when you joined with David/Trav etc. so we just cut everything out about when they offically joined the team as good guys.


Basically everything stayed the same until after the restaurant incident, when the seeDs went back to Garden and then Xu told them that the Angel Tear was the emerald. Then she briefed them on the ruby, and the brief was that the seeDs had to get a scroll from Mayor Dobe in FH and then give the scroll to the elder of Shumi Village so he could do a ritual that would unearth the ruby. It was said that the shumis were willing to do this to give the ruby to the seeDs.

Blaze, Stardust, Jun, Zacke and Reese went to Dobe's house and got the scroll from him, then in the morning Reese left the team to do dotNA stuff, and our seeDs were off to Shumi Village. That's when Aur left and we began at this board. We just had the ship turned around back to Balamb so Zacke could leave and new charries could come in.

Did that help?

I'm all for the Pandora sequel XD But I also love Lil's idea, I want to do both!!!!!!!! XD

and since you're already set with David and Travis's dream world, I think we should do one of them first! It will churn us for ideas since I have no clue what to do for Blaze or Deo yet XD

We started another set of characters called the Opposition of Oppression that we were going to incorporate into the team. So far we had that they are being blackmailed to go get the ruby at Shumi Village, and dotNA are after the ruby as well, so we were going to make it sort of a race to get to it first. Opps vs. SeeDs vs. dotNA.

The Opps and SeeDs were going to figure out that they were not enemies and go after the dotNA together. Maybe that's when Travis and David could come in as a 4th team trying to get the ruby, but i think it might get too confusing if it were four different teams racing against each other. >_<

[Brazerface]

Yes, that does help Ash, thank you. ^_^

And if everyone likes both ideas, then I definitely think that we should DO both. Because I really like Lil's idea too and see no reason at ALL for the need to sacrifice it for the sequel plan. So lets get ambitious and do both of em! XD

Now lessee...the only problem with doing either Dave's or Trav's first is this:

Why Trav can't go first: It was the plan that he wasn't going to wake up with the rest for the first couple of dream worlds. The MAIN reason for it was so that I could concentrate on just playing David in first person and get the hang of him because I already really had the hang of first-person Trav. So Trav was going to wake up before they did the third dream world, and then the fourth world was going to be his.

Aaaaaand...well he was kinda gonna be the first to give up. Cuz you know Trav he's always RAAAA NO GIVING UP!1!1!!!11! so...I thought it would be a good deal to have him give up and succumb to the "beast", because April was supposed to have died in her coma and he found out when he woke up. And it would show the rest of them how serious it was for them to get their anchors. It's all in my dream world notes that I'll get from GC so I can show you the whole thing. >_O

Why David can't go first: David's needs to be tweaked I think. It had heavy involvement of Jun in it, which is in my notes too, and that's really something that Lil needs to decide on and stuff before I can tweak it correctly. His has a sort of love/sacrifice theme, so it would have to involve someone he was falling in love with. And since we didn't really get to do stuff with David and Jun, we were going to drag it out through the rest of Trin slowly so they could grow on each other, and then in the sequel his world was going to be like the next to last because it's gonna be uber Suessy-trippy.

I'll get those notes from her and post them here so you guys can see the details of what I had planned for their worlds if you want, I don't think any surprises from me is a good idea at this point if we wanna work with this together XD

At any rate, if we're gonna destroy the gems first, we can have PLENTY of time to brainstorm the dream worlds together o.o Cuz we're still going to have to figure out how they get the condition anyway, yes? And I think that if I post up what my ideas for my worlds are, then it'll help you guys start brainstorming yours, and we can use this forum to post them up and get feedback from each other.

I don't think that Trav and Co would give after the Ruby anyway, especially after the whole SeeD messup and junk, there'd be no point in them trying to get it. But...maybe they could be doing something else at that point in time, like with Galbadia or summat going on over there that causes them to bump into the SeeDs? Cuz if you guys picked up from the restaurant stuff, then at least there was a SLIGHT hint of some kind of governmental corruption going on in Galbadia, maybe we can work with that eventually o.o

Maybe....maybe Trav and his team could like...just be after DotNA to be after them because of the corruption or whatever that's going on in Galbadia politics and not really even give a crap about the Ruby, just wanting to take down DotNA after they get through with Andre. Or something o.o

Okay, I'mma keep thinking, and you guys keep the ideas coming, and I'll get my dream world ideas up when they get sent to me!

[Brazerface]

Okay, here's Trav's synopsis:

well what was planned was for the team to eventually have to face Adel at the Lunatic Pandora, and even Ap was gonna be there and the significance with that was there was gonna be summat with the Pandora that effected their brainwaves. The entire sequel to Trin was going to be a personal journey the sequel was going to start out with everyone in separate forums, separate "dreams", apparently the Pandora had altered their brain patterns and created a dreamlike world for each person, creating a perfect life for them to live in, and gradually, all who was effected fell into a coma and it was predicted that the phenom was like a virus, and kept eating away at them until there was nothing left and that if it went on they would eventually die

yes. Well what was gonna happen was the doctors at Garden were going to use Ellone as a conduit to help them in and out of the dreams long enough to give them information on how to beat it--they had found a way to defeat it, by each person finding an anchor--a memory, an object, a person--something that meant the world to them and use that to hold themselves out of the coma. There was a whole intricate plot gonna happen that incorporated the GFs, like basically feeding the GFs to the virus with the achor since GFs directly effect memory, but it all had to be done at once. and they were gonna use Ellone to transport EVERYONE'S minds into one SeeDs mind at a time to find the anchors together

so each seed would have their own mini-story.

I know >__<, there was more but I forget a little of it anyway, the catch was that after they got pulled out that first time, and go back in, the dreams cease to be perfect and become the exact opposite, they become that person's worst nightmare/fear (hence the very detailed bios we needed >_>) and the anchor that they think they need to get is basically going to be hidden from them and they have to go on a personal journey with themselves and search their hearts and souls and find what they really want. (David's was gonna be soooooooo f***ing cool, I will have to tell you bout his later, I may still write it. And now you are beginning to see why I was so torn about quitting Trin)

basically, what was going to happen is everyone was going to wake up that first time together except Trav. April won't be there, but no one will be expected to expect her to be there since no one will know wtf is going on but when Trav finally wakes up, everyone, including him that April was the first to try and break herself out of her coma. She fought extremely hard, and nearly woke up, but...she died on the brink of waking, her body too strained from fighting to fiercely. Trav was still in a coma when it happened and didn't get to say goodbye. the short story I wrote was Travis visiting her grave during one of the recessions that they were having out of a coma and he was conscious enough to leave to go see her.

what happens then is we find out that his perfect world, his dream world, was a world where he and Ap were together, happily married, two baby girls, he never had to work or be away from them, everything was absolutely perfect. and when he finds out that Ap is dead, and that his daughters, daughters that he had loved like they were real, and watched them grow for years in his dream time, were never real, his entire mentality is shattered. He still goes with the SeeDs to help them find each other's achors, but he's not the same man he was then, when it gets to his turn to find his anchor, they all go into his world, and find that his nightmare is one where he is a huge Conglomerate leader, his whole world is face paced and rushed, but there is no Ap and no girls. so there task is to find Ap and find out what happened to her according to what Trav would consider his worst nightmare. Everyone would assume that his worst fear would be that she was dead, but in fact, it turns out that his worst fear was that he had worked himself to a noble status, a worthy status, but April had chosen not to wait for him. She moved on and found someone else.

so when they find her, it's like this slow motion "..." style reunion, she would look at him like she hadn't seen him in years, when for him it would only have been days since the last time he'd seen her. and then he'd foolishly try to explain to her what was going on, carelessly be so distraught over seeing her 'alive' that he would confess everything to her, everything he felt for her, try and say everything he never said to her when he had the chance the task would be to find the anchor and bring it back with you when you find it, and Trav would be trying to convince her to leave the life behind that she'd made for herself and come with him, but she would be afraid to go, and wouldn't want to leave the life she'd grown accustomed to.

so when the SeeDs are finally being pulled out of Trav's dream world one by one, Trav is being faced with the decision of going back without his anchor or not. They are all pulled out successfully, except him. Everyone is completely baffled by the fact that he hasn't come out yet, are urging him to wake up. His heart rate drops, brain activity increases, and finally he just gives up

David, having been the last one to see him will explain what happened. That Trav was tired of leaving April behind.

it was gonna be so...soooo...perfect. ;-; I know that sounds terrible, but Trav and Ap I think were always meant to be apart until death. A great, tragic, beautiful romance. ;-;

that's why Aur and I always picked the sappy tragic love songs for Ap and Trav, like Come What May and Whiskey Lullaby

She couldn't find David's stuff, so I'll have to write it all up later if you guys wanna hear that one too >.>

[stardust]

That Trav was tired of leaving April behind.

Holy crap:'( AWWWW THAT'S SO SWEET!! Now I see why GC got really touched.... Man, it's just too bad that April didn't make it to the sequel...

We should discuss what happened to Labrynn and Stef too. I was talking to Ash a while ago and we kinda came up with something. I dunno what you have to say to this but this is only a proposition, k? >_<

What if the disaster in Advelo brought SERIOUS casualties to Trav's team and they lost Labrynn and Steffen and even April? With this, Trav and David will be filled with revenge and will hunt down Andre. (Cuz by then, they already found out that Andre is a mole.)

In Opps team, the group is after a governor named Arland. They tried to ambush him but they were caught. NOW, 3 members of the Opps are about to be sent on a task to get the ruby--the same ruby our SeeDs are after--in exchange of their other team members. What if Andre is involved with that governor too? That makes the governor part of the DotNA, and we can link Travis and David with the Opps characters till they run into Garden. Trav and David can either attack Arland's compound (and free the Opps in the process) or show up at Shumi Village (place where the Ruby is said to be, and the next destination of the SeeDs) when the DotNA show themselves up and try to cause trouble. Does the second sounds better? o.o

For Gonie XD He can just walk right into the briefing room later on and say he's ready to continue with the mission again. LOL

Oh, and another info, one of the Opps member has Jun's sword >.o Just thought I'd throw that in hehe...

Any thoughts?? >.< I hella want to integrate some of the original sequel plot to the new plot! What if that dream curse is inflicted by--not Adel this time--but by the "ancients" who were bound to mess with them? I don't think we explained to you what the concept of Awakening really is right??

Gahh XD we gotta meet on a chatroom seriously!

[Brazerface]

Well Brynn and Steff weren't going to play huge parts in the sequel anyway, since they were going to stay behind and try and salvage Trav's company stuff while Trav and David and April went to help the SeeDs, so they were just going to be outside NPC contacts. Then in the sequel they were just going to be NPCs again since they weren't going to have been affected by the memory stuff.

I could probably get Steffen killed if you guys think it's best, but I don't think that I could kill off Brynn. >_O;; I wouldn't PLAY her as a full character, she'd just be there every once in a while when they woke from the comas and stuff, but I couldn't kill her. >__<

As for April, I know you guys aren't playing with Aur anymore, and I don't know if you got the chance to ask her about April and what she wanted done with her, but...well I do know that at the time she was being played, Aur was writing a fic about April's dream world and her nightmare and April letting go and stuff, and I just think that this was the way that Aur would have wanted Ap to go out. If you want, I can email her or something and ask to see if I have permission to power-play her a little until she dies because I do think that if we're going to do this, that's how they need to end, not having her just die in the restaurant. We can always say she stayed behind or something... x.x gah, I don't want to make this difficult for you guys, but I SWEAR that WHATEVER you guys have plotwise, I will find a way to work with it so both ideas work.

Now about the Opps teams and Andre being involved with that governor Arland, Ani I think that's a PERFECT idea. I could totally see that working. I think that it'd be more likely for Trav and David to show up where the Opps are and work with them first and THEN meet back up with the SeeDs, that way they start off on the right foot with the Opps, and the Opps can vouch for them and stuff. Or if you think it would be better for them to help the SeeDs first, but I don't think that they're just gonna be very welcoming of them all "coming back from the dead and being good" now XD

And I already knew about the sword, it's okay

And no, I don't have the full concept of Awakening yet o.o If I did, I could help come up with more ways for them to get their minds and stuff messed up and junk XD But the "ancients" could work o.o

I wish I could get on chats more often I need my own computer again so bad. ~_~

[Ash]

I think an email to aur could work, but I'm scared with what might happen >_< We obviously didn't fall apart on good terms and Aur was extremely firm about us not touching Zacke and Reese or doing anything to them if she wasn't going to be RP'ing anymore.

She said, " I don't even want to discuss the future of it or plans for my characters or anything, because I don't have anything to contribute to the future of it WITHOUT ME."